Rose and Chrystal with special guest Lauren Dunn

Today we chat  with Lauren Dunn, the dynamic force from "Married at First Sight" (MAFS), she joins us to share her transformative journey from leading LCD Consulting to navigating the whirlwind of reality TV. Her initial reluctance to join the television world and how a breakup nudged her into this new chapter is both humorous and poignant. Her candid tales of being scouted and connecting with diverse audiences, including teens and the LGBTQ+ community, highlight her authenticity and vibrant spirit, making her a beacon for embracing one's true self.

We explore the intense scrutiny of public life and the balancing act between personal choices and public expectations. Her story sheds light on the challenges of breaking free from toxic relationships, the emotional journey to healing, and how crucial a supportive network can be during such times.

Lauren's experiences also remind us of the profound power of female friendships and authentic connections in this fame-driven world. From amusing dating anecdotes to her hilariously honest discussions about family planning and career transitions, Lauren is candid and truthful about it all. The episode is a fun, heartfelt blend of cheeky humour, honesty, and inspiration, promising insights for anyone navigating the challenging waters of life and relationships.

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Chapters

• 0:05 Reality TV Journey With Lauren
• 7:14 Love Triangle Drama and Reality TV
• 12:05 Breaking Free From Toxic Relationship
• 22:46 Empowering Women Through Support and Friendship
• 28:30 Reality TV Reflections and Future Plans
• 38:19 Navigating Relationship Labels and Boundaries
• 43:12 Navigating Relationship Green Flags
• 53:30 Navigating Authentic Female Friendships
• 1:02:08 Navigating Female Relationships and Boundaries
• 1:09:07 Friendship, Relationship, and Embarrassing Stories
• 1:20:44 Family Planning and Relationship Dynamics
• 1:29:54 Hilarious List of Icks

Transcript

Rose Oates: 0:05

Welcome to Bearing it All with Rose and Crystal.

Chrystal: 0:08

Where the conversations get real emotions run raw and nothing is filtered.

Rose Oates: 0:13

Buckle up, because we're Bearing it All deep, diving into everything from motherhood to mental health and everything in between. We want to get to know you, each other and our bodies, and things are going to get spicy. Welcome back to another episode of Bearing it All with Rose and Crystal.

Chrystal: 0:28

Today on our potty we have Lauren Hi.

Rose Oates: 0:32

You may know her previously from maths, but I'm so excited to have you on. Thank you for coming. I'm so excited to be here. I love you guys.

Chrystal: 0:40

We've been in chats with Lauren for a couple of months now getting to know her, and this girl is frigging amazing.

Rose Oates: 0:46

Yeah, she's a real girl's girl honest, funny and honestly. What you see is what you get.

Chrystal: 0:52

I just love the fact that she brings a massive, big grilled cheese and ham sandwich to my salon and eats it Like that is frigging amazing.

Rose Oates: 1:01

She's a foodie and a fellow mimosa drinker. Cheers, cheers, girls.

Chrystal: 1:07

Can you believe that we're almost in 2025? It's actually scary. That is so scary. Well, today's starting off. We're going to get right into it, but we kind of want to know where was Lauren before maths?

Lauren Dunn: 1:22

Okay, so before maths, I had built up my business, so I have a power marketing business called lcd consulting and I was at like the height of my career, had the most clients I'd ever had, was like doing really well. I was like super happy. Um, and then maths came knocking and I was like fuck, no, like I can't do that. One I can't do that show because everyone who does that show is an unhinged psychopath. And two, like I need like a storage unit for the skeletons in my closet, so your first thing was no, no way.

Rose Oates: 1:56

And when you say maths came a knocking, so did you apply or did they come and find you?

Lauren Dunn: 2:01

So they've been hitting me up for a few years.

Rose Oates: 2:03

Wow.

Lauren Dunn: 2:06

Yeah, so or did they come and find you? Yeah, so they've been hitting me up for a few years, wow, yeah, so a few years they've been hitting me up. And then they tried to get me on another show, which they didn't have a name for, and that was called Love Triangle. It ended up being Love Triangle, oh. And so I actually flew over to Sydney to meet with them.

Lauren Dunn: 2:28

I was still with my ex-partner, like, look, they want to meet me for this show. It's pretty sure it's a dating show, but they're going to fly me to sydney. I'm just going to take the trip. I've got no intention. He was like, okay, you're a bit of a nutter, but whatever, I'll go. So I went and they interviewed me and it went really well and it was funny and we had a really good rapport with, like, the producers. And then they were like, look, you know, I love triangle, this is what the show is going to be, blah, blah. But like, we really want you for our big show, what's so? What's your big show? And then it's mass and I was like no, yeah ever going to happen.

Lauren Dunn: 2:47

And then fast forward a year and they hit me up again and I just just just broke it up with my long-term partner, like we're talking like six weeks wow um, and I was like I I just said there's no way I could do something like this.

Lauren Dunn: 3:01

I would just it would ruin my life. And I spoke to a few of my closest friends and they were like you should do it and the other like big reason to do it was it would just be like the nail in the coffin for my relationship that I just kept going back to and I thought, oh no, if I go on this and I marry some absolute stranger on TV, like it's done, Surely surely, yeah, it's not going to go back after that?

Lauren Dunn: 3:23

Surely, sure, you'd think so, but you know oh my Crazy things have happened.

Rose Oates: 3:27

I love that they scouted you and, to be honest with you, mate, you're perfect for it. Oh, thank you, I can't think of. You were my favourite, you were our favourite.

Chrystal: 3:35

We used to do maths chats on the potty and we were always like we used to be like it's Mavs, Chats or food in my teeth.

Lauren Dunn: 3:45

I don't know if it's food or food. I love the Mavs.

Rose Oates: 3:47

Chats Like it was play school, yeah, for adults.

Lauren Dunn: 3:50

There's some funny like when the show was airing and stuff. I never listened to anything because I, just for my own anxiety, I was like I don't want to have like you, or oh, this is so cool I think everybody loved you.

Chrystal: 4:06

Yes, like I mean, obviously you've got some haters, because we all do, but I think majority loved you you know what I had.

Lauren Dunn: 4:15

A good response, I think authenticity rules.

Chrystal: 4:18

That's, oh my god, just some of the shit that used to come out of your mouth. I would be watching it, cracking myself going. When am going to meet this?

Rose Oates: 4:25

lady. And look, that was my daughter yesterday. I said, guess who's on the potty tomorrow? I'm like remember Lauren from Mouths she's like Lauren Really.

Lauren Dunn: 4:33

Oh, that makes my heart warm and fuzzy.

Rose Oates: 4:36

She was like her comments because she remembers when you were talking about bloody Jack Greer getting greased up. Oh, about bloody Jack Greer getting greased up, oh yeah, I was like, oh my God, indy. She's like who can I tell? And I was like she's only 16.

Lauren Dunn: 4:48

You're like everybody. I love that. The teenage girls and the gays love me. Like what better combo.

Rose Oates: 4:55

Exactly, and I'm like what better, like a role model to have, like a strong independent, like a woman that speaks her mind. Thank you, yeah.

Lauren Dunn: 5:03

I feel like that's, I think, as well with the show. We had two like female executive producers and they were really like encouraging of us to speak our mind and it was very much like when they realised that I was like a dog with a bone with certain issues. They were like they just encouraged me like keep going, keep going. And I was like fucking, don't have to tell me twice because I've got nothing else to do. I, you don't have to tell me twice, I've got nothing else to do. I can't go to work each day. My husband's boring as fuck. I was like I'm just going to go after the rest of them.

Chrystal: 5:28

No, it was good TV.

Lauren Dunn: 5:33

Like at the end of it, like there was never any animosity, like Jack was a moron. But the thing is I don't care enough about this dude to make it too serious. And it was interesting. Look, it made good TV. I thoroughly enjoyed watching it. I'd watch it sometimes and be like girl, why didn't you brush?

Chrystal: 5:47

your hair.

Lauren Dunn: 5:48

But besides that I was like this is funny.

Chrystal: 5:52

Look at your funeral. No one's going to be like she didn't brush her hair. They're going to remember you for a long.

Lauren Dunn: 5:57

Yeah me, you guys are going to be in. The'll be like this I would be.

Chrystal: 6:03

I would be like with the makeup brush too.

Rose Oates: 6:05

Yes, I'll be laying there and she'll be like fucking bitch didn't do her hair.

Lauren Dunn: 6:09

I would hope so that you would do that for me oh my God, absolutely Okay.

Chrystal: 6:13

So before we jump like too deep into masks because we're already in it, yeah, like, give us a little bit more Like. So obviously you were in a relationship, you got scouted, you were doing your business like what were, what were some other things like did you ever think I'm gonna be on tv?

Lauren Dunn: 6:29

no, I, I thought about it a lot and because I've got like a um, like a media background and all my friends work in media, all my friends are publicists, talent managers, um, it's, you know, we're all, we're all very much in that kind of world behind the scenes, I've had a really good understanding of what I was about to get myself into and that's why I had a lot of internal dialogue about pros and cons, like what's the pros, what's the cons? Like this could really fuck shit up for you or it could go really well. And so, yeah, I had a lot of that. And so when they rang me and said to me we found your match, you're on, I just went silent. They were your match, you're on, I just went silent. They were like it's not really the reaction we were hoping for. And I was like, look, yeah, okay. And then I started thinking like just overthinking everything. But there's also another layer to this.

Lauren Dunn: 7:14

So when I split up with my long-term partner, I went to Bali. We actually hadn't split up at this point. I went to Bali. We had like a big argument went to Bali with a friend of mine and her partner and, um, you know, I met someone else and I broke up with my boyfriend, my longtime boyfriend, and you know it was very much coming. I'd given him an ultimatum, essentially so that we could start planning our future, not in terms of like I didn't want to like, propose or kids or anything. I just wanted to know some more serious things like I'm gonna buy a house together and what's your financial situation?

Lauren Dunn: 7:43

And this is mine. And like I, this is what I want to do, and like we've been together for nearly six years, like you're a lot older than me, like let's, that's fair. Yeah, this is a fair conversation. And he, every time I bring it up, he would be like, oh, month, to just bring the conversation. I just broached the topic with me. Um, otherwise, I'm done. Anyway, the month came and went.

Lauren Dunn: 8:08

When I was in bali, met someone else, broke up with my ex and because I met someone else and I had really strong feelings for him, really really quickly, like when I was with my ex the entire time never thought about one other person, like I was madly, madly in love, yeah. But when I met this guy, I was like like, like I'm, I'm now fully checked out of the other relationship. Yeah, fully checked out. I literally never thought about him again. This guy, he lives in bali. So this is the whole like scandal that happened. Like apparently I had a boyfriend in bali. He wasn't my boyfriend, but we did spend a week together and then, when I came back to perth, I wanted to. We were still in contact and we did have conversations. Like I end up having to tell him that I'm, because it'll happen like so quickly, right, like I'm talking in like the space of like a week broke up with my dude and then masses in the dms they'd already been in the dms so I ended up responding but then I met this guy and I said to him like look, it actually got leaked in in the, in the media, and then, like hearth now posted something, so it was everywhere. So tell him. And I was like, look, I've been thinking of doing this. And he was like, do not do that, it's going to ruin your life. And I was like, well, do you want to be with me? And he's like, well, we could be. And I was like, well, we don't really know each other that well, but I'm not going to say no to this. Yeah, expecting some guy that barely knows me to drop everything and say I'll be with you. We also live in different countries. So I kind of thought I'll go do this. I'm praying, I meet the love of my life, but if I don't, I was kind of hoping he'd still be there.

Lauren Dunn: 9:34

When I got back and didn't meet the love of my life, told John about the situation I actually like because we got a few weeks in and I was like, oh, I don't think I can do this. I actually think that this has made me realise I like someone else, and so I was really honest with him about that and I wanted to leave. And he was like, please don't leave, we can work through this. And I was like, all right, I'm willing to try. That went well, but anyway, and so when the show wrapped up I know we're jumping ahead a bit, but I just thought that this guy would still be there and he was not. He just said I told you he's like I just can't yeah, I can't fathom that. So it was like a big. But that's why, like, going on the show was hard, because I had so many things to consider.

Lauren Dunn: 10:15

I was worried about what my ex was going to do and say like retaliation I was worried about losing this guy, that I thought I was literally like falling in love with.

Chrystal: 10:23

Yeah, yeah.

Lauren Dunn: 10:24

And then I was, you know, dealing with being on a show where like three million people watch every week and they really are invested in your life and if they think you're treating someone badly like, they love that show. People love the show.

Rose Oates: 10:39

I love the show.

Lauren Dunn: 10:40

So, yeah, there was a lot to think about, and also like my family, like my dad, dad, my mom and dad, business people and just everything, and but they were like you know, do it.

Rose Oates: 10:49

I don't think we realized how much was going on in such a short period of time and it was like it was honestly like a two or three week turnaround for me.

Lauren Dunn: 10:57

Everyone else had like gone through like the three month process and then like I, I, I didn't even sign my contract to like the morning, the morning of the wedding, and by then we'd done all the filming and every time we filmed, they'd be like we can't film until you sign. I'm like, well, I don't know yet, so I'm not signing. And they're like, oh, so they filmed me the other day.

Chrystal: 11:11

So, lauren, and literally on the morning of the applicants probably went through the whole process and they wanted you baby. They wanted you on the show.

Lauren Dunn: 11:31

I knew they wanted me. I knew they wanted me for a long time. I know that sounds a bit arrogant, but I've got the right personality type. I think the only time I knew they wanted me is when I did one of my pre-interviews and I was like I'm a fucking psychopath.

Rose Oates: 11:41

And they were like ding, ding, ding, ding ding. They're like sign the contract. Bitch, here she is.

Lauren Dunn: 11:47

And I was like that's it. I was like, oh, but I am. It's true, I'm a fucking not job.

Chrystal: 11:52

Listen, they can't have all of the same type of people. It's boring.

Rose Oates: 11:55

It's boring. We want good TV. We want juice. Yeah, mention something that brings up this question. You're with your previous partner for six years now. You've openly spoke about the fact that you were in a dv relationship, but that wasn't the reason why you left so I've actually, yeah, so no, look, so that was.

Lauren Dunn: 12:18

We did have a situation it was a part of the relationship, yeah with one of my previous partners. Um, however, it did change, like it didn't happen for the last couple years of the relationship and we're in a really good place and I didn't leave for that reason and that's a really hard thing for me to consolidate, as I consider myself a strong woman and I'm, you know, like people kind of come to me with advice and stuff, but I think it was. It made me like really insecure and really like emotionally unstable. I was unhinged, I was like not thinking straight and the more these situations would happen, the more I'd want to stay with him and like I just felt like I had nowhere else to go and like I've got an amazing supportive family who would do anything for me, and same with my, my friends, like I have the most incredible friends.

Lauren Dunn: 13:06

But in those situations, you don't want to tell your family and friends for multiple reasons. One of the main reasons is because you know you're going to go back and if you tell them, you can't go back and they're going to hate your partner. Two, I felt like I just didn't have anything but him. Like if I didn't have him in my life, what did I have my life? What did I have? Yeah, like I really didn't. Like I was like he's my world, um, I was so reliant on him, like emotionally, everything. But then I was also quite nasty to him, like because of what was going on. I was mean I would ice him out for weeks at a time, like he'd try and be nice to me and make it up to me and I'd be like fuck off like yeah and I would like argue back with him and I pick fights with him and so like a lot of that.

Lauren Dunn: 13:46

I look back and it's very confusing because it's like was it him or was it me? And I now I now know that like, like violence in any situation is never the answer yeah but I would, I would find myself provoking him or even fighting back with him, and then I'm like oh why?

Lauren Dunn: 14:01

and then sending crazy text messages yeah like Like saying crazy shit, Like stuff that, like you know, I would also be worried that if I ever pursued like in any kind of like with the police or whatever, they would just read a few messages and go that shit's crazy, that doesn't matter. I know that that does happen. The police often do look at those kind of things. But I now know that now that I'm out of it, I have a clear mind and that I'm not blinded by the situation that that is ridiculous. Yeah, and I think as well I've used my platform to say like I've had threats like leveled against me and you know, if you say this, I'll release this from him. Right, yeah and um, you know that that happened for like a whole year, like saying that he was going to send it to my manager, he was going to release it in the press, that he was working with a journalist to expose me, and this was all like if you don't give me another chance, I'm going to expose you yeah.

Lauren Dunn: 14:57

And I was like do it.

Chrystal: 15:01

Yeah, you got to a point where you're like, I don't care.

Lauren Dunn: 15:05

Yeah, I had communication with him while I was filming the show. Yeah, I had a dude before the show that I did think that I would get back with if things didn't work out like. I'm not afraid to say it. Yeah, um, yeah, I've sent psychotic messages to you like but who hasn't?

Chrystal: 15:20

like honestly, like crazy, I think I sent my husband one this morning, yeah but now I know about that as well.

Lauren Dunn: 15:27

A lot of women have been in my dm since I posted that, saying, you know, like I really was down on myself for constantly going back, so I felt like I had to stand on. However, I've learned since then that there's something called reactive abuse and it's like when you react, the things that you're going through, and then it doesn't become about what they've done, it becomes about your reaction, and it was always my reaction. I was breaking things in the house, I was throwing fry pans, I was like crazy, like by definition, I was unwell and I, you know, I did, I self-harmed, like I did crazy shit, yeah, yeah, um. And I look back now and I'm like j, I was a broken little, not so little, quite big, but like metaphorically little.

Lauren Dunn: 16:09

What do?

Chrystal: 16:09

they call it, though when it's like the something effect, it's like the. You know, something happens to you and then it's the effect of it after that makes you yeah, it's like it's called a word.

Rose Oates: 16:18

It's like you're on a hamster wheel. You can't get off it. You don't know how to get out of it.

Lauren Dunn: 16:22

And the worst part about it is like I loved him so much.

Lauren Dunn: 16:26

And like we had future, we wanted to get married, and when the good times were good, they were incredible. It was like a fairy tale. It was like the I'm going to take you shopping, takes me out, buys me whatever I want to wear, and then he's booked a degustation at my favourite restaurant and then Like times like that. But then the bad times were like horrific, yeah. And so you just and I think now I'm in this stage because we like I'm fully done, I would never, ever go back there we did have, like after the show, we did have back and forth because we have the same friends. Well, we did.

Lauren Dunn: 16:57

It's kind of changed a little bit now, but we share some of the. We share a mutual best friend that I met through him and I just wanted things to be okay. I didn't want everyone else's lives to be disrupted because of what was going on with us. So we would still do like the group dinners and it just didn't work and I was very much like I don't want to be with you and I don't think he could fathom that. But then when I felt him pulling away from me, I would find myself reaching back out to him and it was very much a creature comfort situation. The brain is more drawn to the chaotic familiarity than they are the peaceful unknown. I'm like a fucking Dr Phil right now.

Rose Oates: 17:37

Oh, I love that. Oh, my God, you heard it here. Take that quote.

Lauren Dunn: 17:41

Take that quote.

Rose Oates: 17:42

That philosopher Lauren is on the pod today.

Lauren Dunn: 17:46

I love that, but that really resonated me because I'm like even like up until like a few months ago, I was like wanting to know what he was doing and where he was and like, are you dating anyone? But like knowing that I would never, ever be with him, and that wasn't fair.

Rose Oates: 18:00

But like it was that, like I want that comfort. Yeah, it feels like you know that, yeah, and you're okay with it.

Lauren Dunn: 18:07

Yeah, but then like I felt like he was holding that over me, like well, you know you're saying you're exposing me, but like you're still hitting me up and I'm like but still, to this day, you have not 100% exposed him.

Chrystal: 18:17

Like you have not, and I feel like that's such a big thing for you, like you could definitely be, like it's this person, yeah, but you haven't, which shows a level of like maturity from you, I see.

Lauren Dunn: 18:29

I think it's that as well. But then on the flip side of how people reach out and be like, well, you should say something, because what about other women? And I'm like that's a hard one, but I hope that, despite like talking about what I've spoken about, people can connect the dots. They also have to be careful because you know things have been thrown around about legal implications.

Chrystal: 18:51

Yeah, I mean you are on a public platform, you know.

Lauren Dunn: 18:53

And you want to go there, though I'll run you into the ground, but still don't really want to go there.

Lauren Dunn: 19:00

About you taking back, your power for you and the fact that you're using your platform in that sense to just like, yeah, you know, give back and show people that you can leave and that you can heal in a lot of ways, and I think as well, like one of the main messages I wanted to get out there and like I've had thousands of women like dance from women on the similar situation is, if you go back, like dance from women on this similar situation is, if you go back, it's not like it's making what they've done null and void, like there's actual medical, psychological studies and terminology for that. It's like Stockholm Syndrome, yeah.

Lauren Dunn: 19:35

Do you know what I mean. Like, and a lot of women are too scared to like, say or do anything because like, oh, I went back or I told him I loved him. A week later and it's in a message. I'm like you fucking care, yeah, it doesn't matter, yeah, it does, it does not matter. And like, I think now that I've been so open about it, people can see that this just doesn't happen to the battered woman in suburbia with a cardigan wrapped around her and her three kids in the grocery store. Like you know what I mean. Like we've got this image of what yeah, what kind of no.

Lauren Dunn: 20:04

It happens to everybody it happens to literally, yeah, unfortunately everybody, like most women I know, have even same-sex relationships.

Rose Oates: 20:13

It's huge, it is huge yeah, absolutely, absolutely doesn't look one way. No, you don't have to be a certain you know stereotype to be in a dv relationship. Yeah, I've been there myself. It is like it just takes something away from your soul, absolutely like it. It's the confidence.

Rose Oates: 20:33

For me, it's the destroying of your confidence and how hard that is to build it back and also to trust another person. We were talking about it before and when I met craig after he couldn't believe like he couldn't say I love you, he couldn't say I was beautiful, he couldn't call me sexy I literally would not have believed him. I was like don't talk to me, don't say those things, it's not true.

Lauren Dunn: 20:55

You don't have to lie to me yeah so that's just like you protecting yourself because you don't want to be like sucked back in and then something bad, and that's like me. I'm always waiting for the other shoe to drop, like I. I am just like I have like severe ptsd which I go to like a therapist for, but also like I'm just always like if something's too good to be true, I'm like it is yeah, and that's just kind of how how I am now, like I'm seriously traumatized human being being. However, I'm not just a traumatised human being. I am successful, I'm confident, I'm very happy, which is funny Like you hear me say like I'm traumatised, but I'm really happy, I'm the happiest I've ever been. Those two things can both exist.

Chrystal: 21:38

We have spoken about this Because same with my situation, you know, like with my dad's passing People are like, oh, but she's happy, but then she's still sad. It's like, yes, you can be both.

Rose Oates: 21:46

Both can coexist. It's not one or the other. Life's not like that, and I'm so sick of it.

Lauren Dunn: 21:52

I agree and I think, even with my ex, like, I still have moments of sadness where I'm grieving what I thought my life was going to be grieving the person that I loved, that I genuinely had such high hopes that there was going to be something for us. So I still have moments. It doesn't mean I still love him or I'm going to be with him, but I still am having those moments of wanting to. We tend to romanticise the good times. There's all these different stages and now that I know that there's no chance of us ever getting back together, I think me posting what I posted was very much my stamp. Yeah, closure, yeah, closure. Yeah, it's hard. It is hard, but I don't feel that love anymore. Yeah, I just feel a little bit of like again. I want that creature comfort.

Chrystal: 22:38

Yeah, and you know what, at the end of the day, we're all fucking human and that's what we long for sometimes. Yeah, we're all fucking human and that's what we long for sometimes. But I think, if we're going to take away anything from this, the important message here is for any women in relationships you know where things are, maybe not the greatest. You are not weak if you stay in the relationship for six months or six years or 16 years. The thing is like when you recognize that these things are happening. Reach out to people if you can. Obviously, yeah, reach out to lauren. Reach out to people if you can. Obviously Reach out to Lauren. Reach out to people If you don't have friends or family to talk, to talk to an outsider. That's right. But leaving is not the end of the world.

Lauren Dunn: 23:14

It's not. And a lot of women as well, like they have houses, they have kids, and that seems hard and you're not weak for not leaving.

Chrystal: 23:21

That's right.

Lauren Dunn: 23:22

But my biggest advice, and something I'm really happy I did, is tell people, yes, tell people.

Rose Oates: 23:27

Even if it's just one person at first.

Lauren Dunn: 23:29

One person.

Rose Oates: 23:30

And there is places you can go, like I know a lot of the financial institutions actually provide support for women in these situations, because a lot of the time, your DV is also tied to financial and it's very scary leaving if you do not have the money to leave. Yeah, so you can walk into your bank and actually um, divulge this information and they have services in place that can help you as well.

Lauren Dunn: 23:55

There's like a lump sum payment that you can get instantly, um, which I've actually been made aware of recently through a woman that I've been talking to who just recently left her partner with her teenage kids. Um, and yeah, but the thing is, I just think that everyone needs to know that this is a widespread issue yeah and it's not it's. It's just you just don't know. And I think if you've got friends that are going through this and they do go back, don't be hard on them, because they'll stop talking to you about it you never want to to close that line of communication, and that's what I'm so thankful for.

Lauren Dunn: 24:27

I have the most incredible friends. They'd pick me up, they'd see things, they'd hear things and they obviously hated it, but they didn't ever put the hard word on me because they knew I wasn't going to leave and they knew that I would just close up. We discuss this all the time. They knew and they were supportive of me and if I ever wanted, to go to their houses.

Chrystal: 24:47

I was.

Rose Oates: 24:47

The door is always open, always, and I knew that it doesn't make it easier Having a safe space like within your friendship group. Oh my God, so important. This all hits me in the feels, girlfriend.

Chrystal: 25:00

Let's get a little bit into maths.

Rose Oates: 25:05

We don't want to go too heavy into maths because I feel like there is so much more to Lauren than just maths.

Chrystal: 25:09

It's a fucking loop leader. That's a good point, guys. Like literally, like after getting to know you, we're like meh Lauren's so much more than maths.

Lauren Dunn: 25:15

She is Like obviously it helps but you know it's funny because, like, I hear a lot of rumours and whatever about myself and I'm like, yeah, cool, that rumour's great and all, but if you knew the truth it's way worse. Oh.

Rose Oates: 25:26

It's way wilder.

Lauren Dunn: 25:27

It's way worse. Like I'm thankful that that's what you guys think happened, because what actually happened was fucked up and like some of the shit, I'm like, oh that's cute, that's a cute remark.

Chrystal: 25:38

Okay, fuck, drop some tea.

Rose Oates: 25:40

Well, excuse me, give us some exclusive.

Lauren Dunn: 25:44

Seriously like shit, mate. Like I just like, even through the show, right, like you know, there were situations where, like I would read articles and it'd be, like you know, lauren's foul mouth rant edited out by production. I'm like it was fucking foul, like it was horrendous, but I thought it was funny and, I'm not going to lie, the person that was a target to him didn't think it was so funny, but everyone at the table was like this, like laughing, like I had Jaden Ridge next to me one night at this like final dinner party. I was like going in on Jono and like Jaden Ridge are just like pissing themselves laughing. And I was like, and I could see like looking at me, was like four, like yeah, and then like the producers would pull me out and they'd be like yeah, this is great and all that. We obviously love this, but you can't be Ed yeah, oh yeah, that's my favorite word.

Rose Oates: 26:29

You can't call him a cunt.

Lauren Dunn: 26:30

I think they beeped out some of those c words though yeah, but the thing is with when you say the c word, they have to blur your mouth and beep oh like the word cunt is so beautiful, and so they pull me out, sorry. They're like I love your work, but like could you maybe call him a dickhead? I was like no, not good enough.

Chrystal: 26:48

And they're like look I don't know if it's either take the booze away or like take you away. I was like you're not taking the booze and they were just like bang, bang, they cast it really well, beautifully, there was a few duds.

Lauren Dunn: 27:05

There was a few. I was like I don't remember seeing that person on there. In terms of personality, honestly I've got to say overall I loved everyone. I really enjoyed everyone's company, got along with everyone. Obviously, as the dynamics start to grow and things start to happen, you form like loyalties with people. Yeah, but I liked everyone. It's like Survivor.

Chrystal: 27:24

Yeah, I love it.

Lauren Dunn: 27:25

I'd be so shit at that game I'd be really good because I'd be like manipulative and conniving, but I'd be fitness-wise. I'd be like, oh, that's me. You'd be like running with it. You're like there's no booze you wouldn't be able to drink. There's no booze.

Chrystal: 27:42

I couldn't live on rations either.

Lauren Dunn: 27:44

No, you know when we did the retreat at Maserati because normally, like during the day when you're filming, I can like drink in my apartment and stuff They'll come in there and be like do you reckon you could just like push the red wine to the side because it's 10.30 in the morning?

Chrystal: 28:03

I was like I feel like I'm in rehab, like this is fucked up. 5 o'clock, though At least 12 o'clock, for Christ's sake.

Lauren Dunn: 28:08

Like a little bino lunch. We're all fucked up by the pool because we're on a holiday, none of that.

Chrystal: 28:12

Oh, wow See, there's so much shit you wouldn't even know was happening.

Rose Oates: 28:15

I'm surprised you waited this long to start having a munch.

Chrystal: 28:20

Lauren is such a snacker. I love feeding her.

Rose Oates: 28:23

It's good.

Chrystal: 28:24

A little bit of ASMR. Yeah, that wasn't too crackly, Hold on, I'll give it to you. So I mean, like, moving on from maths, like obviously you don't regret it, right, Like it was something that you did and you know, some people probably be like I don't know if I regret that, but a lot of people in my season regret it.

Lauren Dunn: 28:53

I think what it is right. If what is shown were the negative parts of what happened and you know in your mind you had a lot of good parts you can default to the edit it was about it.

Lauren Dunn: 29:01

And, yes, I understand. I understand that. However, those things did happen. Yeah, yeah, they did happen and I feel like it is our responsibility now, in 2024, 2023, at the time when we filmed.

Lauren Dunn: 29:17

If you don't understand that, when you go on a reality show like this is such a huge juggernaut, that's all about the drama. If you have dickhead moments and good moments, they're going to show the dickhead moments. Of course, they're not going to show the good moments. With me, right, I had a lot of dickhead moments, but they were funny, like I was able to make light and make jokes, but I also was kind of saying what the audience was thinking.

Lauren Dunn: 29:46

Yeah, so some people lack the insight and the foresight to think well, they don't have self-awareness, so they don't understand how it's being perceived to the people around them. So when they start to self-edit or do things that they think are going to look good on camera, it never works and it ends up making you look worse because it's so obvious that you're being fake. The viewers aren't stupid. So I think with me, I was lucky. Like you got the good, the bad, the ugly, but it was very consistent. Yeah, I think I'm just too lazy to try and, like you know, construct a different narrative. That wasn't exactly what was going on and I am lucky they cut out a few moments here and there and I'm sure Jono's not happy about that because he was a really nice guy to me. But, like, too bad, so sad. Don't sign up for maths. Go on, the price is right.

Rose Oates: 30:35

Honestly, they had to have known with Larry Larry Emder. I don't even know if that show exists anymore does it no. Larry is on a bender somewhere. I love Larry Emder. Larry is on the morning show. He's still not Larry, is he? Oh, yeah, no, larry, I love Larry. Oh, that's right, but honestly, like MAPS isn't the show Like you know? Come on when you know that you're either going to make it or break it.

Lauren Dunn: 31:04

Most people don't even read it. Like I had a full entertainment lawyer look over it. Like try and change all these different clauses. Nothing changed, not one thing. Wow, channel 9 are a beast. Like you want to fuck with them. I'm like I am. I played by the rules, not all the rules. Like I would push the limits with production in terms of like when I wanted to go out and things and all that kind of stuff but like I didn't fuck around, like I didn't do interviews I wasn't meant to do, I didn't divulge show secrets, I didn't talk about production.

Lauren Dunn: 31:30

I didn't do anything because I respect what we signed. We signed a big, comprehensive contract and I read it and I understood what the assignment was and you don't fuck with a hand that could potentially feed you. That is right?

Chrystal: 31:44

Well, we did reach out to you and you were a very good girl. You were like look at the moment, I can't. Maybe we'll chat in the future.

Lauren Dunn: 31:51

Manifestation guys. Do you know what's funny? I said the other day I was like I didn't say the other day, I can't remember what I said, I was like Best thing is for shower dodgers and hippies.

Chrystal: 32:03

Sorry, I'm a hippie.

Rose Oates: 32:04

No, I believe in it now. She believes now. I believe in it. I believe in it. There is a hippie in me. There's a spiritual bish.

Chrystal: 32:08

I mean look my mom's manifesting she's going to win Lotto and I'm like I wouldn't reach that far, babe.

Rose Oates: 32:13

You'd be going to buy Lotto to win Lotto.

Chrystal: 32:15

It makes me laugh. Good health and like good wealth yeah, but you can't be like I'm going to win lotto, yeah, like that's like the secret. Remember the secret, oh God I feel like you're sick in the head.

Rose Oates: 32:25

I think you can manifest, but you still got to work. Yeah, absolutely For sure.

Chrystal: 32:29

Manifesting is just like creating positive thoughts, yes, yeah, and like we are, our thoughts rose and I are bringing out a bumper sticker line next year. No, I'm just we're gonna get?

Lauren Dunn: 32:49

we should do a merch line for the pod and it'll be like guests, like iconic, like yeah another one.

Rose Oates: 32:57

That's a good idea, thank you. Thank you so much so where to now?

Lauren Dunn: 33:02

Okay, so since the show I've been very fortunate. I've signed with an amazing management company. I've actually had a couple I've changed because, just like for different reasons, they weren't a right fit. Yeah, but I have been working with some like amazing brands that I never thought that I would ever work with. So this is so cringe, because I remember this article. I think it was like a Daily Mail article came out. It was like Lauren signs a celebrity talent manager but insists she's not an influencer. Now I'm a full-time.

Chrystal: 33:33

There's nothing wrong with that. What is it so what? There is nothing wrong with that. Listen, if you can make money, baby, you do whatever you need to do.

Lauren Dunn: 33:41

So I still have my business, but I don't currently work on any active accounts. So my business was food and hospo, like PR and marketing, but now I do full-time content creation for brands. Yeah, I do little tidbits. I filmed a bunch of exciting stuff, like cooking stuff. Yeah, we love it.

Chrystal: 34:02

Which you can see on.

Lauren Dunn: 34:03

Channel 10 in like a week.

Chrystal: 34:05

You heard it here. I did see this for you, though.

Lauren Dunn: 34:07

It's just one episode, but it's, like you know, the foot's in the door and now that my contract is coming to an end with Channel 9, in terms of being able to work with opposing networks, there's opportunity there. So the thing with um maths is like when we sign this contract, we have like a non-compete for like a year, yeah, but there's also this good opportunities to work within the network.

Lauren Dunn: 34:29

So within channel nine and I love everyone at channel nine like I just had the best experience, the best time, um, and they've been really good to me, um, and now, like the opportunities are starting to open up and flow and I'm doing like what every reality TV girl does, like a podcast.

Rose Oates: 34:47

Yeah, oh, she's starting a podcast.

Lauren Dunn: 34:50

I'm excited. I'm excited about it. It's actually going to come out kind of at the same time as the new season of Maths comes out, so it's like it's Early in the jam In a jam. So it's going to be about my journey to love like yeah, experts couldn't do it, so like, let's do it, and it's just like it's going to be comedic, it's going to be you it's going to be funny, yeah I'm so excited to listen.

Lauren Dunn: 35:14

The best team, I found the best person and like I, just I'm really excited. Yeah, um, but it's funny because, like I've been dating someone recently and I had to say, like you know, this is what's happening.

Chrystal: 35:28

Well, you're going to have to talk about stuff right, doing like adverts for like.

Lauren Dunn: 35:31

Hinge like dating apps, and I'm like about to like start recording my own podcast which is like About dating, about me dating. So, but About dating, about me dating. But the thing is so I am actually moving to Sydney, oh, wow, in the Jan, wow, okay, but I'll be coming back once a month for you girls to do my hair.

Chrystal: 35:49

Yeah, oh yes girl, I will be doing the hairs.

Lauren Dunn: 35:54

The hairs will be deeply rooted. Pardon the pun in here. I mean, that's right, they're the queens, the hair queens. Oh yes, but so I've told him that I'm moving.

Chrystal: 36:05

So wait, he's a Perth boy. He's a Perth boy. Oh, are we doing long distance? No, bum bum, I can't do long distance.

Rose Oates: 36:14

I don't know why I have to ask this, but does he have a beard?

Lauren Dunn: 36:16

No, oh, could you say her with a bearded man? I had a bearded man, no.

Rose Oates: 36:21

I'm just maybe Rose is like he's got a moustache. He's got a moustache, I think. So what do you mean? You think, wouldn't you feel the moustache? Oh my Lord, woman.

Lauren Dunn: 36:32

Surely you'd know the moustache. Wait, which guy are we?

Rose Oates: 36:34

talking about Shit, shit, mate.

Lauren Dunn: 36:37

Trust, trust me, you should know if he's got a moustache when he goes down on the yeah, no I think Listen, she's moving to Sydney.

Chrystal: 36:45

The fish in Sydney is probably a lot more bigger than, but like I think the pond is bigger.

Lauren Dunn: 36:49

I think as well, dating in Perth is hard just because, well, it's not hard, we've got a small pond. No, the pond is all right.

Rose Oates: 36:59

The pond is okay.

Lauren Dunn: 37:04

But we don't have a big pond. Actually I I talk so much I haven't dated in perth. Really I met this guy. I've been dating him. I haven't gone on any other dates with any other guys in perth.

Lauren Dunn: 37:10

I've met people because I've spent a lot of time in sydney, met people in sydney, done all that like I've had some fun, that's for sure because I have been in long-term relationships since I was like 17, so like I actually am really enjoying being single and the main reason is like not having to answer to anyone, so not having to be like oh babe, I'm going out for dinner with the girls tonight. Like what are your plans? Or that sounds really fucking insignificant, but it's just not.

Rose Oates: 37:36

Not answering to somebody else.

Lauren Dunn: 37:37

No, I can do whatever the fuck I want. So, like my best friend Lucy she lives in Sydney. We literally like call, she'll go to melbourne this weekend. Yeah, let's go. Yeah, just pick up and go here, let's go, like. And then we've got we've got a lot of friends with kids and stuff and like and like I'm lucky, because the best of both worlds love all their kids but their life is so like restricted right now and I want that for my life someday. But right now I'm like living my absolute best life, like I don't spend more than two weeks in one place, which I love. I can pretty much do whatever I want. I can take whatever job I want and.

Lauren Dunn: 38:08

I can fuck whoever I want.

Chrystal: 38:10

Whoa.

Lauren Dunn: 38:11

No, I can't do that. Well, you can, girl, I can, I can do whatever I want.

Rose Oates: 38:15

Well, that brings me to yeah.

Lauren Dunn: 38:17

Let's get into the juicy stuff. Yes to the juicy stuff.

Rose Oates: 38:19

Yes, that brings me to. Well, we know you're in a relationship. No, what is it? A situation? A situation I'm dating A situation, a situation, no.

Lauren Dunn: 38:27

Just so I say now there's like hooking up is level one, okay, level one, okay. Seeing, like hanging out, seeing, yeah, seeing is not exclusive. Two Dating a little bit more serious, yeah, I would say, me and him are like seeing is not dating Is dating exclusive Uh-uh.

Rose Oates: 38:46

No.

Lauren Dunn: 38:47

So then you're dating, then you've got to have the exclusive chat, and then you're exclusive, but you're still not. Yeah, but you're exclusively dating then Yep, but then you're still not boyfriend and girlfriend. Then you're boyfriend and girlfriend. Look this girlfriend and girlfriend, then your boyfriend and girlfriend. This could just be the fucked up vortex.

Chrystal: 39:03

Shit man. If we were ever single again, we would be screwed because we already went from single to in a relationship. That's how it should be. You know what I'm going to be.

Rose Oates: 39:10

I will be a single Pringle. Like I said, if Craig dies through natural causes or myself, I am done. I'm not shaving my legs for him, I'm not shaving them for someone else. I am sorry. I'm happy being single. No, I'm the same way. No, honestly.

Chrystal: 39:30

Having myself a zucchini every now and then, I'm like the same.

Rose Oates: 39:33

Not a literal zucchini guys. Well, maybe I don't know if I felt like it. Whatever you're into, but if you do veggies, that's you no judging. But I you know whatever fruit and veg gets you off. I am not a judger.

Chrystal: 39:45

It's not sanitary guys, you can get like some.

Rose Oates: 39:49

Hold on fruit and veg, Not about me.

Lauren Dunn: 39:51

Let me swallow my drink first. Wait, I'll just tell you about.

Rose Oates: 39:55

I'll just tell you about a friend. Wow, Wait who's this?

Chrystal: 39:59

This woman's going to know who I'm talking about. Are you winking at me? Oh no, hold on a sec.

Rose Oates: 40:02

I was like I haven't done any Frito-Munch. Have you done a big pickle? Have I done a pickle? A big pickle In my vision, yeah, in your vision A pickle.

Lauren Dunn: 40:12

It's not big enough.

Rose Oates: 40:20

It'd be a bit spicy in there. What Can't be healthy?

Chrystal: 40:25

No, but I've heard people getting like bacteria stuff off veggies. Yeah, that's not good. Like they're sprayed so that they don't go off in supermarkets and then you're putting that up, yeah.

Lauren Dunn: 40:33

And I'm laughing. I feel like this is my track record Use protection with men cover it and vegetables um, sorry, I'll tell you this story. So when I was like young, I was like in my early 20s, I was living in this share house with my boyfriend at the time and, like his friend, who was also like one of my best friends and his friend like hey, it was like a fucking road, like open door routine. I don't want to say rotisserie, but he was that going on too okay, his mate and I loved him.

Lauren Dunn: 40:59

He's like hilarious. He's always different, like different girl, different night. And one day I'm like in the kitchen. The next day he like gets out of bed and I'm like slicing up these cucumber bars I put on my sandwich and he's like Loz, no, no, no, no, don't eat that. And I was like why? And he goes, because last night put it up in a box and then she put it back in the fridge.

Rose Oates: 41:22

Maintaining freshness. Did she wash it at least?

Lauren Dunn: 41:26

I totally doubt it. I was like what? Imagine if you had eaten that I wouldn't eat all these sluts in my house.

Chrystal: 41:33

Oh my God, you would have eaten a vagina sandwich.

Lauren Dunn: 41:36

It was a tuna sandwich. She was beautiful.

Chrystal: 41:39

You wouldn't have known any different.

Rose Oates: 41:41

Lauren would be like how did I get an STD? I haven't been with anyone. I ate a cucumber. Yeah, literally. Oh, get an STD from eating a cucumber, can you from a vagina? What if it's been on her vagina?

Chrystal: 41:51

I would say so, you could do.

Rose Oates: 41:53

You never know what came out Wild.

Chrystal: 41:55

That is dirty. Wash your veggies before eating them. I am not eating any vegetables ever again. I've just got to say Maybe if you live by yourself now you can trust it, but otherwise no.

Rose Oates: 42:09

Let's do a few red flag, green flags.

Lauren Dunn: 42:11

Okay, your number one red flag in a relationship I've said this Someone that doesn't drink alcohol is very concerning, because I know that sounds awful, but my lifestyle is very sociable. I obviously like to have a drink, so like I need someone to fit in. Yeah, the other mass like serious red flag is um someone that displays any signs of controlling behavior, like from the very beginning. So like I've had this with people like if you were my girlfriend, I would be wanting you to be posting like like um, what is a bikini? Yeah, um, like, like you said you had a question from um like a, yes, I love this so we had a question box up um for questions.

Rose Oates: 42:52

I wanted to ask Lauren and we've got. I'm dating someone that wants to know how many previous sexual partners I've had. Would you tell them them, and is it really that?

Lauren Dunn: 43:02

important. Okay, so this is a multi-layered question, I feel like. So I feel like this day and age for women, fuck no, why should you have to say that, like, what's that got to do?

Chrystal: 43:10

with anything.

Lauren Dunn: 43:12

Asking a female, in particular sexual partners, is literally just upholding this misogynistic patriarchy of women should only sleep with the guy that they're married to. Like. Think about the whole. No sex before marriage, right, that is a notion put into play by men so that they can do what they want, but when they get their woman they don't have to worry that she's another dude. This whole body count thing of like women versus men is so outdated so I feel like asking someone is opening up that conversation Like why, why does it matter?

Rose Oates: 43:42

Like, women are sluts and men are heroes Like why is that a thing? Yeah? Why are they congratulated and we?

Lauren Dunn: 43:49

ashamed. And it's so funny because I literally like this could be a toxic trait of mine. But when I hear, like I've obviously discussed it with previous partners as you get into the relationship for whatever reason but I haven't flat out just said I want to know it's not like a prerequisite. But when I found out they're set with heaps of girls, I'm like that's hot, like good for you, like you obviously can get down with it, like you're yeah, you're all like a ladies man, like girls like you, and so like I was like oh, that's great. But then, as the relationship goes on, you're like cool, I can't go anywhere that you've been, you can't, I can't even go to cold. You set with a checkout chick. Seriously, yeah, oh my Lord, seriously. Yeah, the chick that came to clean our house fucking fucked her. Oh my Lord, everyone. And it didn't matter either what they looked like, how old they were. Like that's, he's an equal opportunist, absolutely.

Lauren Dunn: 44:30

But I feel like nowadays, a guy asking a girl that they're dating like why are you asking that? To me is controlling, yes, and it's displaying early on signs of well, I have these certain backwards views about women and I don't want you like. I also want to know who they are like, why, like, why? I don't think. I don't think a guy should ever ask a girl how many partners they've had ever. And I know people are going to hear this and go well, you women want equal rights, so what kind of guy asked if a girl's asking it's like well, we didn't have equal rights for a really fucking long time? So when we feel like we're somewhat equal, you can ask us those questions, but for now no yeah, and I don't think we're there yet we are not there yet

Rose Oates: 45:11

we are so I mean, if you're, if the reason you're asking is because you're worried about catching something.

Chrystal: 45:16

Ask them to go and do like an std check. There's nothing, you don't need to worry. You don't need to ask how many people you slept with. Be like, do you mind going and just doing an STD check?

Lauren Dunn: 45:24

Yes, and if that's the reason absolutely For both parties. I agree, it's fine when you're entering into, like, an exclusive situation. If you're not exclusive for someone, hopefully you're using protection, yeah, but when you're worried, go, and both do.

Rose Oates: 45:45

And it's easy to clear. That's perfectly safe and also, does it fucking really matter? No, if you love someone or if you really really like that person, then they tell you I've slept with 20 people.

Chrystal: 45:58

I don't like you anymore. Yeah, no, lauren's like. That's so hot.

Rose Oates: 46:02

But I was, oh, I don't like you anymore. Yeah, not Lauren's. Like that's so hot. But I was like I'm just using that as a number, like, are you going to like them any less? Like, does that change them?

Chrystal: 46:07

I'm sure there are people out there that, yeah, they just need a reality check.

Lauren Dunn: 46:12

I think it's come. I think my biggest red flag over controlling is insecurity. So I think it's coming from a place of insecurity. You can't fix an insecure man or an insecure woman. So I feel like if you think someone is insecure and it's because of nothing that you've done to make them feel that way, like they're entering that way. That is my biggest red flag.

Rose Oates: 46:29

Yeah, that brings me to my green flag a secure man.

Lauren Dunn: 46:32

Oh, there's nothing sexier nothing hotter than a secure man. That's hot when you're.

Chrystal: 46:37

but also I feel like relationships do change because even for me, like Davin and I never used to have the chat about anything If you don't want him, I'll have him. Oh, you can't. No, I actually do love him. I've been with him for 20 years.

Chrystal: 46:48

I actually do love him I like this is where this recently has come out. So, after me losing almost 40 kilos, there's a little bit of insecurities happening on his part, on his part. So I think, and I do think it is normal, I think it 100% is normal he's seeing now men, you know, looking at me making comments. Family members that are men are going, you look amazing.

Rose Oates: 47:11

I think that's different. Again, though, You've been together 20 years and he loves you so much that he just doesn't. He feels like he's lost a part of him. You know he's like oh, people are looking, that's my girl.

Chrystal: 47:23

Yeah, and.

Rose Oates: 47:23

I like a little bit of that jealousy.

Lauren Dunn: 47:25

I like that too. I like a little.

Rose Oates: 47:26

I don't think it's insecurity. I think I like a little like a safe bit of jealousy. What's the fuck?

Chrystal: 47:31

Yeah, I don't mind if you throw me on the bed and be rough with me.

Lauren Dunn: 47:34

Yeah, I like that too, that creates oh, give me this piece, give me this piece of salami, I'm gonna I get jealous like get some meat in your mouth. I get jealous. I think they need to be. There needs to be an element like I don't know if this is a toxic thing to say, but I'm fucking toxic. So whatever, I feel like there needs to be like an element of you know a little bit of like healthy jealousy is that even a thing?

Chrystal: 47:57

yeah, I, I get healthy jealousy over you. It's like oh my God, I love you so much. She's doing so good. I also want that, but I also love you.

Rose Oates: 48:07

That gave me a tickle in my pants.

Chrystal: 48:10

We had somebody ask us recently they were like you and Rose are so close Like do you guys have sexual chemistry?

Rose Oates: 48:15

I was like we probably do. I mean, if something happened, if I was actually that way in mind and there was no David, go Craig.

Chrystal: 48:21

She has said that she would do dirty deeds on me if she had to.

Lauren Dunn: 48:24

If I had to, would you guys do that?

Chrystal: 48:26

No, she's like if she had, to Like if I wasn't getting it, and also she was like I'll do a fix for you, Do you?

Rose Oates: 48:32

want just anyone to do it, or I'll get there, I'll go down and I would hire a prostitute.

Chrystal: 48:38

I reckon't know.

Rose Oates: 48:39

I think it's legal.

Chrystal: 48:41

I think it's legal, but you just can't talk about it. I don't know. It's like it's everything being legal. You're not going to go to jail for it. No, come on.

Rose Oates: 48:47

Yeah, but I think there's a healthy amount of jealousy in a relationship that's over, for sure. I do want him to want me more. Yeah, is that?

Lauren Dunn: 48:56

it, they're going to love you a little bit more. The man needs to want the woman more for it to work. Do you know what's funny Like with the jealousy thing? My ex used to like deliberately do things to make me jealous because he wanted to know that I still loved him. He was like so when you react like that, I know that you still love me. You still love me, otherwise you wouldn't act like that.

Rose Oates: 49:17

And I'm like why would you do that to me? Yeah, find balance. No, that's. That is like emotional abuse.

Lauren Dunn: 49:21

It's like he would do it constantly and then like, like, follow different girls on Instagram that I knew he'd slept with and I was uncomfortable that he was still in contact with, and like, like, collect their photos to get a reaction so you would bring it up. Yeah, and he was like, well, that was, he was so insecure that he that was his way of like. Knowing that I still loved him was when I would react to things like that.

Chrystal: 49:43

So we've done the red flags. What are?

Lauren Dunn: 49:49

some green flags in a relationship or in a person, sorry. Well, my biggest green flag is someone that can make me laugh, that like doesn't take themselves too seriously, can laugh at themselves. We could date. Yeah, we could date. I love that. If I like pussy, I would date. You See, I feel the same, but like a guy that is ambitious, someone that's driven, like it doesn't matter what you do as long as you're passionate about it, and like you're always trying to grow and achieve things. It's such a green flag for me. Someone that just kind of floats through life is like that's fine for you to be happy, but not for me.

Rose Oates: 50:21

Yeah, I through life is like that's fine for you to be happy, but not for me. I need someone that can just their passion about their thing. It doesn't rely on you either.

Lauren Dunn: 50:31

Also a man that either doesn't have social media or barely uses social media.

Chrystal: 50:35

That's my husband.

Rose Oates: 50:38

Did you?

Chrystal: 50:38

see our little thing. Yesterday On your post I wrote you can jingle my bells. And then he said hold on next in line or something. And I said can't we share On a photo of her? I didn't even see it. So when I see Craig write something I'm like oh yeah, I'm going to write back to that.

Rose Oates: 50:55

Oh, my God, my wife and my husband.

Chrystal: 50:57

Exactly.

Rose Oates: 50:57

At the same time.

Chrystal: 50:59

My green flag. Well, we weren't asking mine, but I'm just going to put it out there. Mine is like, for me, like when somebody fully, 100% supports you, because I'm a fucking nutcase, like I jump from one thing to the next thing, to the next thing, and Davin has never said to me no, yeah, yes. Like I feel like all the relationships I talk to men are saying no, I don't really want you to do that. All the relationships I talk to men are saying no, I don't really want you to do that, like that's going to cost money or that's going to cost time, don't you do?

Lauren Dunn: 51:24

that Take you away from the kids and the home.

Chrystal: 51:26

Yeah, we're like. I literally was like I'm going to open this hair salon and I'm not a hairdresser Okay, I'm going to go and do an apprenticeship.

Lauren Dunn: 51:32

Okay, you need my hairdresser.

Chrystal: 51:33

No, no, I need my apprenticeship. That's amazing. Yeah, I'm going to do a podcast. Okay, do you know what I mean? Like I've never really had him say no to me and I feel like that's really sexy. I do too, that is so cool, but also maybe I'm a little bit of a brat.

Lauren Dunn: 51:58

I'm like don brat. Yeah, you guys balance each other out so well. We do like he's a good calming force, but I can also see like he's authoritative as well.

Chrystal: 52:01

Yes, he does bring me down when, like, I'm being too mental yeah, yeah, I love that.

Lauren Dunn: 52:05

I really that's what my first serious boyfriend was like. I was straight like just all over the shop and he was always very like, calm and if I get too out of pocket. He'd be like he'd pull me up.

Rose Oates: 52:16

Yeah, that's Craig with me. He's like never says no, we don't have huge amounts of arguments, but when he does like go oh, nah, not that I'm like, oh, he must have actually.

Lauren Dunn: 52:28

He's had a thought about that he's actually thought about it seriously, he means it Okay, it seriously means it.

Rose Oates: 52:37

Okay. Let's get into some female friendships like this is a question that I think me and crystal get so much like um personally on our socials and then even within the pod, because I feel like female relationships are just as hard on your and and amazing as being with like a sexual romantic partner. Now, since you've been on the show has oh sorry, my leg.

Rose Oates: 52:59

Since you oh, just a bit of a some bugs coming up. Did any of your relationships? Were they affected like, especially like your close female friendships or friendships you thought would never falter?

Lauren Dunn: 53:11

No, actually I was really lucky, like my closest friends were all at the wedding and they were very much along for the ride with me. They were the ones getting the calls every night with like with all the details, and they were the ones that kind of encouraged me to do the show. Um, I feel like I got really, really lucky. I've got amazing friends, although the one thing I did notice is people coming out of the woodwork that kind of didn't really talk to me or have time for me after school.

Chrystal: 53:41

And then they're like, hey, she's been on TV, I'm going to reach out and all of a sudden it's the oh amazing Lily.

Lauren Dunn: 53:46

So I'm like you wouldn't have even acknowledged me For whatever reason. I'm sure people have their reasons, but I don't like that. I don't like when I feel like people are making a big effort with me, to see me, and that they all of a sudden are like desperate to catch up with me when we didn't really have a huge friendship.

Chrystal: 54:06

It's in genuine.

Lauren Dunn: 54:07

Yeah, and I feel like you know there are some friends like I've got a really beautiful friend that I went to high school with, that we kind of never like were super, super close, that we have stayed in touch over the years. My name's Sarah. Hi, sarah, she's been like she's just the loveliest girl. We've always kind of had dialogue going and I've stayed in contact with her and she's been a great like one of those friends that you don't see all the time but like you know there, but on the flip side of her, I've had friends like that that are like desperate to catch up with you and like constantly messaging If you don't reply, like why aren't you replying?

Lauren Dunn: 54:40

And I'm like look, I don't even have time to see my family when I'm in Perth so this, all of a sudden, desperate need to like be my best friend is coming across and giving like, just it's cringy, it's giving you the ick, it's giving you the ick, it's giving me the ick and it's just leaving you about to taste it and do you know what the worst part is?

Chrystal: 54:54

You probably catch up with them and the whole time they'd be putting it on social media, which is gross to me, like I can't stand it. And the thing is with me having a bestie that's actually a little bit in the public eye in Perth fuck off, people recognise you all the time I get a selfie. I'm like no, you fucking can't. I'm like she's having a photo with me.

Lauren Dunn: 55:16

I didn't realize how good your Instagram was. I follow you on like I've got the hair account yeah.

Chrystal: 55:22

I get awkward, don't I? She gets awkward, but look like a lot of people follow Rose. She does get recognized out in public. If we're at an event, everybody's asking I don't mind. Like I understand, people love her. Like, yes she, I love you, I'm in love with you. But like when it's ingenuine, it's icky to me. Yeah, I can't stand it, I agree. And when they're saying what are they saying what? What are you looking at me like that for my best friend I'm like you've had two conversations. The whole fucking year is a whole fucking year. She's not your best mate. Yeah, I don't like that. That would shit me. It shits me. She's like she just has a giggle, but I find it fucking annoying.

Rose Oates: 56:00

Yes, she does. She's my hype gal.

Lauren Dunn: 56:02

I feel like female friendships are the most important things in our lives, yes, and so when they break down, it's the most tragic. I had a really close friend she's my best friend all through high school and then we had a breakdown in the French. I didn't really understand why at the time I felt like I was kind of just cut off. Found out later down the line. She kind of rang me and explained some things that wasn't really anything to do with me. It's kind of what she was going through. But when she kind of started to ice me out and then she moved to another country and I didn't even know else, I was heartbroken like the worst heartbreak I've ever had. I still dream about, like I have these reoccurring dreams. This is a fun fact about me I remember all my dreams. I remember all of them since I was a little kid. Wow, so she's not spiritual.

Rose Oates: 56:45

well, no no, maybe, maybe the hippie's coming out maybe.

Lauren Dunn: 56:49

But, um, I have this like reoccurring dream with her about her like not acknowledging me or like not wanting to be my friend or like in some capacity, it kind of like evolves each night into like something different and it really, really hurt me and I really struggled with that for a really long time. And I think, because our female friendships, we choose our friends and there's so many layers to it, like our parents, right, like we have a certain relationship with our parents, certainly with our kids, certainly with our partners. But our friends we have like all these different levels. They know everything about our parents, they know everything about our partners. A lot of us don't tell our parents everything about our partners for certain reasons and vice versa. But with our female friends, they know everything about everything. They know every aspect of you. They don't judge you. Like you know, sometimes we don't tell our partners certain things because we don't want them to either be upset or be jealous.

Chrystal: 57:37

Tell Rose everything.

Lauren Dunn: 57:38

Don't want you to know that we bought that Chanel bag or whatever the reason is, but with our friends they are like so deeply entrenched in every inch of our lives it hurts more than an actual breakup.

Rose Oates: 57:48

I agree it really hurts.

Chrystal: 57:50

You're never allowed to move to another country or break up with me.

Rose Oates: 57:52

I know She'd actually just stalk me and I love that She'd follow you. I'd actually just take you.

Chrystal: 57:56

Yeah.

Rose Oates: 57:57

But it's like Craig asked me about a certain event with a cake and he was like does Crystal know?

Chrystal: 58:02

And I was like yeah, I know the colour of the icing. I know where the icing was. I know how the icing got out.

Lauren Dunn: 58:10

That's why, as well, like I feel like I've got a couple of friends, like one of my best friends, she's got a partner.

Chrystal: 58:15

That it's no secret I don't like, and, um, she doesn't like him either, to be honest, but um, she, he knows that I know everything, like he can't take a shit without him already knowing that I know that he's taking a shit, yeah. Third, wheel.

Lauren Dunn: 58:30

He doesn't like it and so, like I died, not allowed at their house oh, fuck off.

Chrystal: 58:34

I did have this thing recently with Davin. He was like do you tell Rose everything? And I was like I pretty much do. And he's like is there some parts that like we can keep to ourselves? And I was like you need to let me know which ones. I can't tell her. I just don't know. Before you start talking, tell me, can you not tell Rose this, because 100% I'm going to tell her the next day.

Rose Oates: 58:53

I know, it just comes out. I can't help myself. If I can't tell her, who can I tell?

Lauren Dunn: 58:59

And I feel like our partners get awkward around our best friends because they know that they know everything.

Rose Oates: 59:05

Craig just walks in and is like there's my other wife apparently.

Lauren Dunn: 59:07

Yeah actually I'm like that with my cousin. She's like my sister and her husband.

Chrystal: 59:12

I'm like you're my husband now is this the one on the farm thing? Oh, I laughed my head off the other day because you were like you can marry me. Oh, wait a minute.

Lauren Dunn: 59:18

Oh no, you're married to my cousin I wrote him his 45th card and I was like to my husband he's like, why fuck? I didn't know I had two wives. He was like. I was like, well, you should know, you have like I put my finger up your ass, so you should know. Imagine in a non-sexual. Oh Lord I was going to say. I was like, actually, and my cousin's the best she's like, standing there encouraging it, Like she fucking loves it.

Rose Oates: 59:41

Yeah, that would be us.

Lauren Dunn: 59:41

But we're just like super, super close and like he just doesn't have a choice.

Chrystal: 59:46

Yeah.

Rose Oates: 59:56

I love that, so isolating it is and if you feel like people are toxic in your life, cut them off it. Honestly, it hurts and I know how much it hurts. It's recently happened with me. Yeah, it fucking hurts so bad, but you have to cut them off because it's self-limiting yeah, I'll see the reason or the defining moment, or you don't want to.

Rose Oates: 1:00:13

You know, it's the straw that you know how some things are the straw that broke the camel's back. It's just like the last thing that has happened to you that you're like you know what. I've had enough, that's enough, and I can't do it anymore. I'm one of those people that will walk away and you'll never know why. So if I'm screaming, yelling, being psycho, having a full-on, you love them I actually still love you. Yeah, I care about you, I. But if I go silence, radio silence, I'm it was like us last year.

Chrystal: 1:00:40

You were like did this, do you? Did you do this? Don't lie to my fucking face. If you did do it, I'll, I'll fucking bury the body with you. That's what I said. But I need you to not lie to me. And I was like I fucking love you because I'll call her out.

Rose Oates: 1:00:51

But with this particular um situation, I recently had a surgery. I recently had bowel surgery, and then like I share a lot on Insta but I don't share like in-depth shit. It's like 15 seconds If you think about it, like four clips is a minute. You would feel this as well. And they've made a judgment off that, after I've had surgery, about my health and what I was doing, if I was drinking, if I was eating and la-la-la-la, not checked in on me like everybody else and people that barely knew me had checked in on me.

Rose Oates: 1:01:19

I'm not a needy person at all. I'm not a needy friend. I've got fucking four kids and a stepson. I have shit going on, but in this situation, I thought it was really important to be checked in on and I felt like this was really impacting my life and I really struggled through the like, the rehabilitation and everything that went with it, and you weren't there, yeah, and then you heard that I've heard things and I was like oh, I feel really hurt because it was such a long-term friendship.

Chrystal: 1:01:48

Yeah, do you know what I think, though, with female friendships they either grow with you or they don't. Yeah, and I think for you, like, like you have grown, like even just in the five years I've known you, you have grown so much, and some people aren't just willing to be your cheerleader, they want to just be like nah, I'm not going to cheer you on. Yeah, it's just shit to me.

Lauren Dunn: 1:02:08

Women who compete with each other is something I've noticed, especially before when I was working in PR marketing, especially in Perth. Yeah, I've got another friend called Taylor James and she's a very successful PR girl in Perth and we like worked on a bunch of clients together when we were a little bit younger I say younger, that's like a few years ago but, like you know, we're always like bringing each other up and helping each other and like really champing each other on. But I've noticed some other women in the industry that are not like that and like it's all like competitive and cutting and I'm like there's enough food at the table for everyone. Yeah, thank you. And the more we come together and achieve things together, the more money we can make, which is more fucking food and booze or whatever else we're going to put on the table.

Lauren Dunn: 1:02:52

There's enough room for everyone.

Lauren Dunn: 1:02:54

A for whatever else we want to put on the table. There's enough room for everyone, 100%. So I hate this notion of women being competitive with one another. I just absolutely hate it. And it's also something that we see a lot in the media the media, which I don't know if the age or question is media or reflection of society, society or reflection of the media. However, we see a lot in the tabloids and stuff people thrive on female drama See Lohan versus Paris. That was tabloid fodder for years. We want to hear about Blake Lively feuding with a female co-star on the new movie. We want to hear about Hillary Clinton versus Monica Lewinsky. We want to hear all these things.

Chrystal: 1:03:33

Yeah, that's so true. I never thought about it like that.

Lauren Dunn: 1:03:35

People really feed in and the more things you see in the press, they're printing it more because they're getting more views. It means it's what we want to listen to. I mean, look at Desperate.

Chrystal: 1:03:42

Housewives.

Rose Oates: 1:03:43

That's right. Yeah, but there was this quote that I read and I loved it. Was it by me? Like, let me know if it was you, because we're going to start our T-shirt line. I'm so keen for this T-shirt line. It was something like just because I don't want you to sit and eat at my table doesn't mean I don't want you to eat. Yeah, so go and eat somewhere else. I don't want to see you like not thrive in life. Yes, but I don't want you fucking at my table. You don't need to be with me you can be thriving to the side.

Rose Oates: 1:04:17

Yes, and I mean that, even with the like, friendships that like are no good for you anymore. I wish them well. I genuinely do. I love all the years that we spent together, but no longer I want you to eat at my table and there's nothing wrong with that, right Like.

Lauren Dunn: 1:04:33

I had a conversation yesterday with the guy that I'm dating and I said to him are we dating? Are we seeing each?

Rose Oates: 1:04:39

other. Hold on. What was the three-step now?

Lauren Dunn: 1:04:43

Spectrum. We are on the spectrum. There's no doubt about that. But anyway, no, we actually are. We are all on the spectrum. We are spicy. We are spicy. But, um, I said to him I was like, well, relationships with everyone, because we're talking about me moving and whatever. I was like you're with people because you're using them, you're getting something out of it. He goes I don't like that word use. I'm like no one likes that word use. But take the word use out right, relationships are transactional because you're getting something out of it and that sounds bad to say. Let me like explain what I mean. Um, relationship with your kids. You get their unconditional love and they get your unconditional love. You get that from each other. That's what you give to each other. You obviously give them a shitload of stuff and those little fucking greedy fuckers can give you right now, yeah, but yes you know what I mean.

Lauren Dunn: 1:05:31

If you get back, you get back. So the kids are at the very low, because that's just unconditional either way. Then you go to family members. Family members you're getting love and support and kindness. But if you don't get that think about how people are estranged from their family members you cut them off. So again, you're getting something.

Lauren Dunn: 1:05:46

And if you're not getting something out of it, in terms of whether it's love, it's support, it's help, it's someone to go out with on the weekend because you're sad, or whatever the fuck it may be, and then, when you get down to friendships, they're the most fickle versions of that, because we get to choose our friends.

Lauren Dunn: 1:06:01

Yes, we don't get to choose what kid comes out with us or who our family members are. You never cut your kids off. So that's where it starts. You can start cutting off family members if it's not healthy for you, but friendships is where it's the most fickle. So we choose our friends based on what we can get out of it in terms of what we like about them. That's true, getting out of it doesn't mean I'm going to be friends with you because you're going to get me invited to that party.

Chrystal: 1:06:25

I mean it's handy.

Lauren Dunn: 1:06:26

That would be handy If you can get me invited to Leonardo DiCaprio's fucking house.

Rose Oates: 1:06:31

I'm just the fucking plus one for everything. Why are we on a yacht?

Lauren Dunn: 1:06:34

People that fill your cup and make you happy. If that ends up being more negative than positive, it hurts, and the longer you've been friends with them it's going to be worse, but we can cut that off. And as we get older and we mature, we learn that we need to, especially when you've got husbands and kids. You don't have the capacity for a friend, a chosen person in your life. That's going to bring you negativity.

Chrystal: 1:06:57

Yeah, I think that's why we're getting to the point of, like, we're both 40 next year and we're just like you know what. We're not dealing with this anymore.

Rose Oates: 1:07:03

No, I think you do get to certain like age points where you start going. What do I want for the next stage in my life? What is important to me, moving forward and who's bringing?

Lauren Dunn: 1:07:13

the who's growing with me and helping me achieve.

Rose Oates: 1:07:18

But I feel like it needs to be like this yes, not like this no, I want to see you fucking win every step of the way. Like it means a lot to me to see her win.

Chrystal: 1:07:29

Like. But even yesterday you were telling me something about Instagram stats or whatever, and I'm not, I don't really know much, and she's like shit, that sounds so cocky and I was like that fucking doesn't To me. I'm going oh my bitch, I know. And when I'm at your business.

Rose Oates: 1:07:42

I feel like I'm like we like it's my business, it's not my fucking business. That's what she says at meetings. She'm like oh yeah, I mean you, but I don't give a fuck. But I'm like you know, because when you're fucking a million, you want someone that's invested in your business.

Lauren Dunn: 1:07:58

But that's why I love that's when you know you've got a real, really good friendship right. I know my friends, my true friends, my fair weather friends. I can message them and be like, oh my God, look at this, whether it's amount of money a client offered me for something. I mean I don't tell most people, we don't, most of our friends don't talk about money, but I might miss something like, oh my god, this brand offered me this amount of money and I'm like, oh my god, good for you. Amazing the people that I feel like I maybe I shouldn't tell because they would either be jealous or upset yeah for example, sarah, that I messaged her and I was like, oh my god, channel nine put me forward for this.

Lauren Dunn: 1:08:30

And she was like, oh my god, congratulations, amazing, like happy for me, yes, and vice versa. But if you've got someone in your life that you feel you could say that and it might, it might make them feel a certain type of way they're not the right person to be. Yeah, and that that brings me to a question I actually got from a girl in my question box. She said to me what did she say to me? No, I don't remember. So she said to me um, like how do you deal with film our friendships and like the breakdown of a friendship? She said that a long-term close friend of hers cut her off for something really menial and she told me what it was and it was something ridiculous. I just said to her I was like I know this is going to sound brutal, but I don't know how old she was.

Lauren Dunn: 1:09:07

This girl looked quite young. So younger is harder, because now, when we're older, we've all got a lot of other shit going on. When you're younger, your friends are your whole life, yes, um. So I just said to her like, if someone is willing to cut you off for something so trivial like just accept it for what it is and move on, because that is so toxic. And imagine you get to. You know our stage in life. You guys have got kids, husbands, me, when I was going through all my shit. I need friends that are like actually my hardcore friends, because life gets really serious and when someone's cutting you off or something like that, imagine if they were the friend that you had relied on for when you went through something like what I've been through or what you've been through, or what you've been through.

Lauren Dunn: 1:09:48

You can't and they turned around and they went there for you and you didn't have another friend like that. That was your person, right? How tragic would that be? I feel like when we're younger we really hang on to these friendships because we feel like, oh my god, I don't have anything else, but yeah it's just like when someone shows you who they are. Believe them, oh yeah that's another bumper sticker thank you.

Rose Oates: 1:10:07

Uh, that was quote three, just saying okay, we did get a few questions from the question boxes. Yes, love a question box. So first up, most embarrassing sex moment, oh my God. And the reason she asked is she's like I've had a couple and I just want to feel better.

Lauren Dunn: 1:10:22

Okay, I've got the most fucked up one, and everyone knows I actually can't say on this podcast. I will tell you two. Okay, Tell her to DM me, I'll tell her Okay, all right, tell one that's slightly less fucked up.

Rose Oates: 1:10:39

Then what else have we got?

Lauren Dunn: 1:10:40

We've got your ideal date. Oh no, I've got a funny one. Okay, okay, we'll go back. How vulgar can we be? You can be so vulgar.

Chrystal: 1:10:47

We're pretty vulgar Look. I told Rose that my dogs lick my toes while I'm having sex and I'm nearly vomited so that's pretty gross, because I hate feet.

Lauren Dunn: 1:10:54

This is not as bad as this.

Chrystal: 1:10:55

Okay.

Rose Oates: 1:10:55

Okay, that's fine.

Lauren Dunn: 1:10:56

No, mine's worse. No, yours is like PJ. That's disgusting. But it's disgusting because oh my God, this is going to be so bad, like oh, anyway, whatever. So I was having sex recently and he went to like hold my face, eyelashes right. Oh no, I like tipped my eyes back. I tipped my eyes back to like don't my eyes just, and it like like went up my nose oh, that's okay, rose has done worse I've done way worse than that, yeah, I have.

Rose Oates: 1:11:29

Oh, when I nearly died and I was like, I felt like a sinus infection from like, how do you go to the doctor and say this is not conjunctivitis, it's actually coming from the eye?

Chrystal: 1:11:37

Yeah, oh, my lord, but I love that the eyelashes came first.

Lauren Dunn: 1:11:40

No, the eyelashes always come first. She was like no. I was like no, not the eyelashes. Just let me get something yeah literally, but I feel like I shouldn't like to talk about.

Chrystal: 1:11:53

He's got a new partner.

Lauren Dunn: 1:11:54

He's with Ellie from the show.

Chrystal: 1:11:55

Yeah, they bought a house together. Oh okay, I thought you were saying new like oh okay, no, no, no, they're not. Family love.

Lauren Dunn: 1:12:00

Well, he had some like interesting sex, right? Yes, he had good sex, he was really good. I don't know if this is so inappropriate, but I had him. We were having sex in the shower and I was like he was like holding my neck from like behind. Yes, like I like that stuff.

Chrystal: 1:12:18

Yeah.

Lauren Dunn: 1:12:18

And he's into it and he's, and he was like holding me like this and I was like leaning forward and like obviously, like the pressure on my neck was like too much and I completely Passed out, completely out of control, and he was like fuck. And he's like picked me up. How do I tell people? And I'm like, I'm like I don't know You're unconscious. I don't know how I got just like one second, yeah, and then we just kept going.

Chrystal: 1:12:39

Oh my God, Shit. I would have been bloody calling 911. I was 2-0.

Rose Oates: 1:12:46

The poor bastard. No, he was fine.

Lauren Dunn: 1:12:48

I think we were both into it Just be, safe, be safe, be safe but he's like army, trained like he knew what he was doing, right, okay, good for you, ellie.

Rose Oates: 1:12:58

Next question Next question Ideal date and partner.

Lauren Dunn: 1:13:03

Ideal date Ideal date. Okay, so I've been on the dating apps recently because I've been like experimenting with Hinge that little thing right there for Hinge.

Chrystal: 1:13:10

Also good content for your upcoming podcast.

Lauren Dunn: 1:13:17

Yes, great good content for your upcoming podcast. Right, I've researched babes research. So I was on hinge and um, what I hate this again is gonna make me sound like so bad, but it's true, guys, in their bio they're like long way along. Wake up in the morning I can feel like around the beach and the coffee. I'm like, oh, what the fuck? No, this guy was like, oh, do you want to go get a coffee and a walk? And I was like absolutely not. And he was like, oh, what do you do? I was like, well, let's, do you want to go get a coffee and a walk? And I was like absolutely not. And he was like, oh, what are you going to do? I was like, well, let's go have a drink, because I don't want to go and spend my very valuable time.

Chrystal: 1:13:40

It's very limited with a stranger yeah.

Lauren Dunn: 1:13:43

If I've got any time, I want to be with my friends and my family. But if I'm going to go meet a stranger and risk it being shit, which I have, a cocktail in hand.

Chrystal: 1:13:53

Well, you can run and eat some yummy food. Well, too.

Lauren Dunn: 1:13:55

Yeah, exactly. So like yeah, if I want to leave, I can leave and you get something out of it. Exactly so. Our ideal date is literally just like catch up for a drink and some like tapas.

Chrystal: 1:14:04

Yeah.

Rose Oates: 1:14:07

It doesn't need to be like a serious dinner, and what was the other part of it If you had to choose an ideal partner?

Lauren Dunn: 1:14:13

I have an inclination for like sports people, and do you know what it is for athletes? It's not just because, like they're hot, that has something to do with it. Come on, that's what I've got there, obviously.

Lauren Dunn: 1:14:28

But the thing about a sports person or an athlete is it's like their ambition and their drive and their like determination and like like I love seeing someone like out on that field, like just getting getting shit done like and it's the, it's like the, it's like the discipline with, like perfecting their craft, like so my dad was a um, it's creepy, I should take that to my dad, but my dad was a soccer player, professional soccer player. I played for soccer olympics whole shazam. My mom and he and me together, since we were like really, really young and my mum lived that life Like we travelled. They travelled all over the world for his play and she was like you know, life was hard because he was always training or playing, but like it's funny because you see a lot of women that like, have been with sports or their kids end up that way. So, like now I've my last two relationships have both been people who play sport.

Lauren Dunn: 1:15:18

Yeah, and I'm just so into it.

Chrystal: 1:15:20

But don't they say you kind of marry someone who's like your dad? Yeah, they do say that.

Lauren Dunn: 1:15:24

My dad's like the unicorn though.

Chrystal: 1:15:26

I'm never going to fight someone. It's weird, though, because my best friend's like my dad, I love you. She's like him 2.0. It's weird.

Lauren Dunn: 1:15:35

And that's like I know I'm not spiritual, but maybe I am no 100% it's spiritual.

Chrystal: 1:15:39

I feel like Rose. I met Rose before my dad died, but we weren't as close then and then after his death, she was already in my friendship circle after his death. But after that I was like holy shit.

Rose Oates: 1:15:57

She was like given to me because she's not replacing a part of my dad that I miss now, but 100, there's bits out. I'm like, oh shit, she does things like yeah, I do think there's it's weird. Like yeah, it's, it's actually creepily weird. Like even the way like he wanted his ashes spreaded over the ocean. I'm like that's me.

Chrystal: 1:16:07

I was like you're both, both Pisces, we're both outlandish and wild and like love, life and music and it's weird that's so weird.

Lauren Dunn: 1:16:18

There's something that's funny you guys are talking about, because I saw something on Instagram the other day and it was like this clip from a movie with Morgan Freeman. I can't remember what the movie was, but do you know what it was?

Chrystal: 1:16:25

Yeah, I think. Did you share it? No, I didn't share it. I saw it. Somebody shared it to me and it was like talking about I know which one.

Lauren Dunn: 1:16:32

Yes, so I don't believe in God. But if you're spiritual, it's like whatever spiritual power you believe in. So when you say you pray and you say I'm asking for courage, he's not just going to go zazam and like you're courageous, he's going to give you a situation where you become courageous. I want to be confident. He's going to give you a way to be confident. I want to be brave.

Rose Oates: 1:16:52

He gives you the opportunity to be confident. I want to be brave.

Lauren Dunn: 1:16:54

He gives you the opportunity to show that I want wealth. It's going to give you the opportunity to create wealth Fucking.

Rose Oates: 1:16:59

Lauren is laying some bombs down.

Chrystal: 1:17:01

today I saw this as well, though I saw it. Somebody shared it to me. Maybe somebody shared it to me, Can't remember, but yeah, it was a really good one.

Lauren Dunn: 1:17:10

I really enjoyed that because like again, that, because like I again like I'm a hardcore atheist for multitude of reasons.

Rose Oates: 1:17:19

However, I still believe in something I don't know maybe the power of the universe is something.

Chrystal: 1:17:21

Yeah, I believe in something too like I'm not.

Lauren Dunn: 1:17:23

I'm not so stupid and narrow-minded and egocentric and all the rest of it, to believe that that it's just humans that are going on like I feel like there's obviously something else. I mean, that's a whole different. I can get my full tinfoil.

Chrystal: 1:17:34

Listen, I'm still like is the earth flat?

Lauren Dunn: 1:17:38

Oh my God, my best, one of my best friends, gemma. I'm going to go Gemma. Gemma said it. I'm leaving Gemma Oldfield she can't stand this, she said it to me behind it. I just feel like, how is it round? Shit, she thinks that's her. I mean, we've flown over it a few times, have you not seen it? Yeah, I still feel like it looks flat.

Rose Oates: 1:18:02

I can't keep. I look out the window. Someone pull me a shimmy.

Chrystal: 1:18:07

To another episode of Is the World Flat?

Lauren Dunn: 1:18:09

We'll get like a scientist person on.

Chrystal: 1:18:11

Yeah, I mean I would get put in a grave because they would know all the facts. Go at me with it. Go at Lauren. Sorry, with the next question I can have a person there with a full round table debate.

Lauren Dunn: 1:18:22

Oh Lord, That'd be fun.

Rose Oates: 1:18:24

All right, any plastic surgery, no hate, just curious.

Lauren Dunn: 1:18:27

I get this question all the time. I've never had plastic surgery. I've had Botox and fillers. Obviously I fucking love that shit.

Chrystal: 1:18:32

The titties are real man. I've seen the titties in real life.

Lauren Dunn: 1:18:34

The titties are real. They're real Bitch. One thing I hear all the time is the cat eye surgery. Okay, I'm like thank you, that's a compliment, because I have these round beady little eyes and there's definitely no cat eye going on. Sometimes I get like Botox going around that when I left the show to get my surgery for my blood clots, you can still see.

Chrystal: 1:18:59

Oh yeah, I remember people saying something yeah, I've got fake tan around my head.

Lauren Dunn: 1:19:02

I see all the blue veins. That's from that. There's still very much there. They were like oh, she's leaving the show to go get plastic surgery, like and not be recovered in four days, like you morons. Like there's all these, like I didn't realise that Reddit is a thing. I knew that Reddit's a thing, but the threads in Reddit, yeah, there's something funny, a little too bit about that. My ex, like when he was trying to kind of get back with me and was like oh, you know, I've gone Reddit and like the things people say about you. He's like I go in the forums and I defend you and I was like there's so much irony here I don't even know where to begin.

Chrystal: 1:19:37

But thank you, you're like, you're not my knight on a white horse.

Lauren Dunn: 1:19:41

He would send me like crazy shit that people were saying and I defended you and I'm like why are you sending me this? I don't want to know this. But like, yeah, the plastic surgery thing. No, I've never had plastic surgery. I'm keen though.

Rose Oates: 1:19:54

Yeah, I've seen the titties in real life. They're delicious and nutritious, Like honestly. Delicious and nutritious. I love that. So, yeah, I think also, oh, a kid's on the cards one day, and a little bit a few have asked about it, and then you have gone through egg freezing journey, or are you going through it.

Lauren Dunn: 1:20:10

So when my ex and I, like that whole thing came to an end, I was like, all right, I'm going to go and look into freezing my eggs because I'm 33, so I'm young, but I'm not like super, super young in terms of fertility. We all know as women that when you get to 35, your chances of conceiving easily and naturally start to dramatically decrease, which sucks because our bodies haven't caught up with society in our lives. Eventually it will. That's just evolution. But anyway, but I can't really nothing I can fucking do about that right now.

Lauren Dunn: 1:20:44

So I looked into it and I went to the doctor and she pretty much just said to me look, she's all like my test and everything. She's like everything's good, like really good. She's like I really recommend coming back in a couple of years. Because she was like, if you go through this one, it's expensive, which is fine, the money isn't the problem. But the second thing she said was and she was funny she said and she's like I'm going to let you think who do I can come up with this rule, the law or the rule or whatever the fuck. It is one year of infertility, so you have to prove that you've been trying for a year. Fuck knows how they want you to prove it. So if you freeze your eggs, this is fact. I don't know if people are going to come for me, but this is fact. If you freeze your eggs and you want to use them, you cannot use them until you've proven that you've been infertile for a year, but you've paid for the whole time for them to be stored.

Lauren Dunn: 1:21:30

That is true, but I did not know and the doctor was like and she goes to me, she's so funny, she's an amazing woman. She was like who do you?

Chrystal: 1:21:37

think, made that I was like, oh man for sure, and I was like yeah, obviously it's our fucking egg.

Rose Oates: 1:21:41

Yeah, Anyway, I did know that was true because obviously my girlfriend with the donation and stuff, but she was obviously infertile for that year but. I didn't know that single women or a woman that just wants to freeze their eggs can't do it unless proving that. So then what?

Chrystal: 1:21:58

happens if you're in a let's be honest, if you're in a gay relationship or same-sex relationship and you freeze your eggs, then what?

Lauren Dunn: 1:22:07

Oh it's different.

Chrystal: 1:22:08

I think you've got to freeze embryos.

Lauren Dunn: 1:22:09

Actually I don't know.

Chrystal: 1:22:12

Oh, wow, that's a whole nother thing.

Rose Oates: 1:22:13

I think it's certain.

Lauren Dunn: 1:22:14

Yeah, actually that's another episode I've got no idea, so I don't want to, I don't want to comment on that because I really don't know. But she said to me go be free.

Chrystal: 1:22:22

Yes, then when you're ready one day she'll come back in a few years.

Lauren Dunn: 1:22:25

So I remember I I mentioned I think I spoke about this on like a question box on instagram and then new idea trash ends up writing this like story about my baby plans and wanting to start a family and I'm like I always get questioned because I'm 33, I don't have any kids. Oh, do you not want kids? Yeah, I do want kids, but not now. Like I'm living my absolute best life, I don't have time. I also really understand what it means to have children. So I was a full-time nanny all through uni. I looked after a six-week-old until he was four. I've had multiple kids. I really, really understand what it means to have children A lot of people when they don't, a lot of people that don't find it really overwhelming and like I really understand what I'm in for and I want to make sure I'm 100% ready. It's a huge responsibility, Also with the right person, because I've seen how shit goes south with partners and what it does to you.

Lauren Dunn: 1:23:21

Imagine being a mum with young kids, and I just don't want that for myself. So, instead of getting with someone having kids super, super young and then having to split up when you're like 40, I just kind of want to start a bit later. Yeah, I understand, I obviously want of want to start a bit later. Yeah, I understand. Like you know, I obviously want my parents to be in the kids' lives and I would have wanted my grandparents to be, because I'm very close to my grandparents and, like I see my cousin, who's like my sister and my brother, they've all got young kids and they're all growing up together and I do want that, but I don't have a partner that I want to have kids with.

Chrystal: 1:23:53

Right now I'm really going to have a baby because I'm at 33.

Lauren Dunn: 1:23:57

Like, no, yeah they do, they rush it. I'm so thankful I didn't have a partner. Kids are my last partner. So I feel like everything happens for a reason. I feel like I'm going to meet someone. It's going to happen really quickly because, like I think I love my life so much right now, I'm like what?

Chrystal: 1:24:16

Do you know what, though that is like, actually, like I don't find it selfish at all. I think you should not have a child until you're 100% ready. Otherwise that's kind of cruel for the child, I agree.

Lauren Dunn: 1:24:28

Like I want to be able to give my kid everything. I want to be home with my kid, like we never will look after my nannies or anything like that. There's anything wrong with that.

Rose Oates: 1:24:39

I'm so into women having it all kids, marriage, babies teenagers everything they want a good example of mum and dad, or mum and mum and whoever that is, and I feel like I just like right now I've had a kid.

Lauren Dunn: 1:24:54

I live in a one-bedroom apartment, Like I'm not in the position to go and buy a four-bedroom home in Sydney, which is where I'm going to live, Like I also want to be. I want to have kids with someone that I genuinely like see as my dad Want to have kids with and. I don't know if someone's going to be a good dad until I've been with them for at least a couple of years yeah I want to.

Lauren Dunn: 1:25:12

I want to go through the trials and tribulations. I want shit to go wrong. I need some life tragedies to occur or something to happen before I'm going to say and I know you guys are different, you guys are just exception to the rule, but, like at my stage in life, I feel like I really want to make sure it's the right person for so many reasons. No, we tell people every day.

Chrystal: 1:25:32

we're like, yeah, live your life, go travel, go do things. Then do that later on if you can Do. You know what I mean.

Lauren Dunn: 1:25:40

And if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. Yeah, but I know that one day I'm going to turn around and go fuck, I wish I had kids. That's why I think, if it doesn't happen the next five years, I'll probably You're 33, man.

Rose Oates: 1:25:52

You're 33, man. I wish I was 33 again Shit.

Chrystal: 1:25:55

I reckon I'll freeze my eggs by 35. I've got wrinkles in places. You should not have wrinkles.

Rose Oates: 1:25:59

I need Botox. Live your life. I'm raising four daughters. I want to tell them the same things.

Lauren Dunn: 1:26:03

I do not want them.

Rose Oates: 1:26:05

It's really hypocritical of me to say Like I met Craig when I was 20. Yeah, and it worked. It just happened to work. He was the boy next door, but I am so fucking lucky. But obviously over 20 years so much shit happens. That's not to say that won't happen, but it's still good. I actually love him more than ever today. I love him more than I loved him at the start. But I know that's so fucking sad. You know, people put us down for that. They're like, yeah, nothing's wrong with you. People put us down for that. They're like, oh yeah, I'm like, yeah, nothing's wrong with you. Of course, no relationship is perfect.

Chrystal: 1:26:39

Like their relationship on Instagram is actually their relationship in real life. They make me sick.

Rose Oates: 1:26:44

I'm glad I want to make you sick.

Chrystal: 1:26:46

No, they're just so genuine Like they actually head over heels for each other.

Rose Oates: 1:26:49

No, I think it's, but in the last couple of years it's gotten better.

Chrystal: 1:26:53

The fact that he lays on a blanket and lets you squirt water on him for a splash blanket ad says everything I know.

Rose Oates: 1:26:58

Poor bastard Doesn't even have social media, doesn't really understand it and lets me do it.

Lauren Dunn: 1:27:01

That's so funny. He's a good sport.

Rose Oates: 1:27:03

He's a good sport. Yeah, he really is a good sport and he's relaxed. Yeah, he's supportive.

Lauren Dunn: 1:27:16

Whereas I'm a Like and he's the calm in my storm.

Chrystal: 1:27:17

My friends have a story about this theory called the rock star theory, and it's like a relationship needs a rock and a star. Oh Wow, that is such a good one. That's my relationship, that's your relationship. I am the star, yeah, the rock star.

Lauren Dunn: 1:27:29

It's like the rock and the rock has so many different facets to it and the star can be whatever. Shit, shit, yeah, I love that. You can't have two stars, you can't.

Chrystal: 1:27:39

And you can't have two rocks so that's fucking boring.

Lauren Dunn: 1:27:42

Not that the rock's boring.

Rose Oates: 1:27:43

The rock doesn't necessarily mean it's boring, but they need their star. They need a star. They need a star to make it.

Chrystal: 1:27:47

But me and you are both stars, so how are we?

Rose Oates: 1:27:48

working and they let us be stars.

Lauren Dunn: 1:27:53

You guys would be unhinged if it was just the two of you. We are unhinged, yeah we already are unhinged.

Chrystal: 1:27:58

It's terrible, yeah, but I love it I love it, yum Go, what's ours.

Rose Oates: 1:28:04

Oh, will we see you on the screen again, the big screen, other than what you've just told us about the cooking? Definitely.

Chrystal: 1:28:10

I see Lauren on her own version of Ready Steady Cook.

Lauren Dunn: 1:28:13

Yeah, Do you remember that show? No, do you know what I'm most excited about? This podcast is going to be sick, but actually see her, definitely TV.

Chrystal: 1:28:21

Yeah, I see you on TV.

Rose Oates: 1:28:22

I see her being a host of like.

Chrystal: 1:28:24

Love.

Rose Oates: 1:28:24

Island.

Lauren Dunn: 1:28:25

Love Island thing. Yeah, oh, like something like that, like when Sophie's like done and d she decides she wants to leave.

Rose Oates: 1:28:32

When she passes the torch on. Nah, there'll be something here. Just listening here I think we've said it first. That's our prediction is that I reckon you'll be on the big screen. On the big screen.

Chrystal: 1:28:41

But not on another dating show For something else, something bigger.

Lauren Dunn: 1:28:45

Actually, if Love is Blind, came to Australia.

Rose Oates: 1:28:48

Would you go on it? Yeah, Guys, just putting it out into the universe. We universe.

Chrystal: 1:29:00

We're manifesting it. I do love it, I do like it, but I just couldn't do it.

Lauren Dunn: 1:29:02

No, I enjoy it actually like me, yeah, well, I mean it's intriguing. I like it because you gotta get to know their personality and this is gonna sound so shady, but like you can hear their voice, of their voice I know actually lauren would like are you an athlete?

Chrystal: 1:29:13

are you an athlete? Are you an athlete?

Rose Oates: 1:29:15

No, next room. How do you get into a ball, don't you reckon you can tell by their voice? Yeah, their personality comes out of people's voices. A hundred percent.

Lauren Dunn: 1:29:23

Someone that's got a monotone voice talks very slow.

Rose Oates: 1:29:27

People that talk slow is an ick for me. Oh my God, my list of icks is huge. I'm like this huge.

Lauren Dunn: 1:29:32

I'm like this. What did you say? My friend Lucy told me the funniest ick the other day. She was like, oh, I saw this hot guy on Woolies. And she was like he's buying a six pack of your cold.

Chrystal: 1:29:41

Was that an ick? He's looking after his gut health.

Lauren Dunn: 1:29:44

Oh, I don't know why, though, when a guy struggles with an umbrella in the wind, that's also.

Chrystal: 1:29:51

Yeah, that's funny.

Lauren Dunn: 1:29:51

The guy covers his ears when the blender's going because it's too hot.

Chrystal: 1:29:54

Oh my God, your list of icks is ginormous. No, it's so funny.

Lauren Dunn: 1:29:56

Yes, yes, yes, there's so many. It's bad, that's good.

Chrystal: 1:30:00

I've got a few too. Yeah, I do too. Picking your belly button no, if you pick your belly button, I'm going to choke.

Rose Oates: 1:30:16

That's wrapping this up. But, Lauren, we have honestly like me and Rose could go for three hours. I could go for three hours. This is typical of us. We can't help ourselves. We've told you, we're like, yeah, we'll just be here for an hour. This part, this second half, has been 37 minutes.

Chrystal: 1:30:23

Has it. Yeah, look, you know what, when you're having a good time, you just have to roll with it.

Lauren Dunn: 1:30:32

Love this for.

Chrystal: 1:30:34

Oh, thank you so much. Well, hopefully, one day again we'll have you on here and maybe it'll be a love story, maybe it won't, maybe it'll be a new show, maybe it won't, we'll just see. Maybe it'll be a ball. Well, the future is huge for you, I'm telling you now.

Rose Oates: 1:30:48

Yes, there's big things coming for Lauren. We are the woo-woo that you don't have I love it.

Chrystal: 1:30:52

I love a bit of woo-woo.

Lauren Dunn: 1:30:54

Yeah.

Rose Oates: 1:30:55

Anyway, I hope you all look after yourselves and look after each other. See you later, bye, bye.